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FAQ: Cosmology
Can entities time travel into our past and future? Does EVP necessarily dismiss or disprove any world religion? Is it possible that these entities are speaking from a "heaven" or "hell"? Question: Can entities time travel into our past and future? Answer: To answer that, I will first need to give you a brief sense of the way I think reality is arranged--the cosmology. We think there is time like ours in other parts of reality, but that elsewhere has a different reference. It seems to depend on the relationship of aspects of reality as they have been created. The hypothesis get complicated. There are a few explanations of the cosmology here. In the hypothesis, we are an aspect of a creator entity, which is in turn, an aspect of another creator entity and so on to a prime creator. Each round of aspectation modifies the primary energy depending on the understanding of the operation of reality held by the entity and visualized venue in which the entity expects to gain understanding through experiences. The entity's aspects enter into the venue for experience and eventually return with increased understanding about the operation of reality. In a sense, we are creator entities when we imagine ourselves in some situation. We create an aspect of ourselves, see it in a venue for learning we have created and learn what our aspect has learned when it "returns" to us. Interestingly, once an aspect is created, it never dies in our memory. Also interesting is that we might try many different venues to answer the same question. Thus, we create many aspects of ourselves and we are the sum of all of those experiences--imagined or not. This seems to be the prime objective of reality--to understand the operation of the rules by which reality is formed. In our case, the physical aspect of reality is a venue for experience that is probably held in the imagination of one creator entity, but is evidently supported by many other creator entities. Actually, I should say that we know the creation of the physical was accompanied by the creation of at least a few, but most often though to be seven level with our creator aspect on the energetically "highest" and the physical on the "lowest." I like the Urantia story of creation ( http://www.urantia.org/ ). In it, the creator entity of this aspect of reality is shown as an entity, one aspect of which was Jesus. However, this entity who holds the physical in its imagination is assisted by other creator entities, which we would think of as arch angles or devas. I suspect that a hint about our relationship with the prime aspect of reality can be seen in the cosmological constant. That is the difference in energy thought to exist between absolute vacuum and absolute zero energy. It is small and hard to measure, but researchers, such as Albert Einstein have struggled with its possible meaning. So we know that we, as a physical person, are in a different aspect of reality than is our Self. Our Self, who we really are, our point of view, is thought to be in a symbiotic relationship with our physical body. That is how our Self is able to be energetically in agreement with the physical. Our Self is an aspect of a creator entity, which might more properly be thought of as our Soul, to use a religious term. We have many fellow aspects and our existence is all so that our creator entity can gain in spiritual maturity. Once created, a Self cannot return to its creator until it can become energetically in agreement with the aspect of reality inhabited by that "higher" entity. This agreement is achieved by increased spiritual maturity and that is gained by coming to understand the operation of reality in this venue. When the entity does return, we think that it becomes part of the creator entity, but does not lose its identity. We have encountered such group consciousness and they give new meaning to the idea of "we are many but we are one." This view allows for reincarnation so that we can finish learning the concepts we are trying to understand, but it does not require reincarnation. It also allows for experiences in other parts of this region of reality before the Self is able to return to its creator entity. So, all of this is cosmology, but it is required to give you a context for the answer to your question--from my view. Time is a real thing, in that an apparent constant in reality is that things happen via a process. A process is a sequence of events and you cannot have a sequence of events without having a time relationship between events in the same sequence. So, time is real for us, but if you are "outside" of our aspect of reality--what I refer to as in the etheric--all of our time is now, but there is time for that observer that is as our time is for us. Following that logic, the time in all of the rounds of aspectation the prime creator began by creating its first aspect, would be now. All of the above is either directly consistent with what we have observed, told to us by one communicator or another via different methods of communication or a good story that may explain how it all fits together. One of the implications of the cosmology and what we are doing now with instrument augmented trans-etheric communication is that it may be possible to move from one part of the physical universe to another by entering into the etheric and then moving there by expressing an intention to move in relationship to the physical. Doing so would look like using a fictional space ship hyperdrive and would offer a possible explanation for how the Earth might be visited by entities from other star systems in realistic time periods. At any rate, that would be my answer. I feel that they can move about in our time at will. The controlling factor would be whether or not they are able to accept in their mind that they can.
Before I close, I should point out
that terms such as "outside" and "lowest" are only descriptive
of what we have in mind but are not intended to mean a spatial
relationship as we see in the physical. If you read the "Imaginary
Space" model, you will see that I offer an alternative way
of looking at movement in reality.
Tom Butler
Answer: All indications are that distance and time have
different meanings in the greater reality, but using our
"yardsticks" the greater reality is much larger than anything we
consider physical. In this view, EVP is a relatively local
phenomena, and the messages are mostly concerned with the
relationship between people who have recently transitioned (probably
less than 200 years but mostly less than 50 years) . We do get such
comments about the other side as "Just like living, only
better." When asked what happens to us when we die, we
have recorded in the 4Cell EVP Demonstration, "Review
our lives."
Most religions include as an article of faith that there is a
greater reality (Heaven) and that there is at least on entity in the
greater reality that functions as a creator entity. With EVP, we
think we can prove that:
There is a greater reality.
We are an etheric Self in a symbiotic relationship with a
physical body. (Here, "etheric" is all things not physical) This
essentially supports the dual nature of a person, as opposed to the
argument that consciousness has a biological origin. Therefore,
if parapsychology is based on psychology, it cannot support the survival
hypothesis. (In fact, I know a number of qualified, openminded
parapsychologists, holding a Doctorate in their field, who are
working very hard to determine if we do survive, and if we do, how
to study the evidence.) Self, and the information/intelligence associated with it such
as memory and knowledge, is a "living" thing and is local to the
point of view of the Self. As such, theories, including superpsi and
quantum-holographics, that depend on "nonlocality" of information
are not supported by the evidence we see from ITC.
When the physical body is no longer functional, the attention of
Self is free to be fully on another aspect of reality.
In fact, the Self is no longer able to function in the physical. It is possible to cause etheric to physical influence, but this
influence is dependent on a form of energy that bridges the physical
to the etheric. We refer to this as "auric" energy or the energy
emanated by "living" organisms in the physical.
We who are in the flesh are the source of energy required to
cause etheric to physical influences--always. We are able to do this
by virtual of our etheric Self / physical body entanglement. In
effect, our physical body enables us to cause etheric to physical
influences. Our etheric communicators do not have such a body.
When we turn our attention to someone else, we link to them
mind-to-mind via the etheric aspect of ourselves.
We are pretty sure that etheric to physical influences are
enabled by way of the etheric mind-to-mind relay of information, and
then the etheric to physical transformation of that energy into the
physical under the guidance of the communicating entity.
After our transition into the etheric, we experience only an
aspect of the greater reality and that experience is colored by our
expectations and worldview. We encounter people on the other side
who are unaware of other aspect (in some cases, other heavens).
Transition is a multi-phase process. We remain energetically
"near" the physical for a time and then pass through some threshold
that is properly described as "going to the light."
People will sometimes not finish their transition and remain
close to the physical. This is referred to as being earthbound" and
is considered a malfunction of the process. Some are held by the
grief of those left in the physical, some fear to go on because they
will be judged and punished. Some just do not want to miss out on
earthly pleasures. And yes, some are unaware that they are "dead."
It is possible to "return" to near the physical from the other
side to visit with loved ones still in the physical.
People who were existing in a badly damaged body might have to
experience a "getting well" period, in which they learn that they
are not so confined. In the same way, people take on the body they
are most comfortable with--probably out of habit--but will come to
us in the form we remember as a form of communication.
At some point in people's spiritual evolution, they might
energetically move out of reach for communication via EVP and
sometimes even mediumship.
Our animals have very similar experience.
We experience a life review at the time of our transition and
before we "go to the light." The review is from the perspective of
those with whom we interfaced. That is how we are judged--we judge
ourselves--and the only punishment we experience is our regret and
subsequent efforts to lean how it would have been better to act.
Thus, we are pretty sure that we continue to have experiences that
are designed by us to help us understand the operation of Natural
Law.
It is clear that there is an ever present energy that manifests
as different aspects of the fundamental energy, and that it behaves
according to a uniform set of "rules." We know these rules as
Principles of Natural Law, and spiritual maturity is a function of
how well we learn to understand these rules and how to behave
accordingly. Our understanding, or lack thereof, is the sum total of
Karma. Okay, there is more, but I will stop there. Just about all of the
above can be at least pointed to by the way EVP/ITC works and what we
record. Now, some of this proves religious tenets but some also point
to the need for religions to change the way they advise their
congregation. For instance, I teach that we need to be very careful
of whose heaven we buy into. This care is taken by knowing what we
allow in our worldview. That is why I say, "Believe what you will,
but know what you believe." A good example is that the idea that it is a sin to commit
suicide is one of the causes for earthbound people. In our study,
suicide is a waist, and really not useful, but it is only a local
sin that is not supported in reality. In fact, probably the only sin is to
impose your will on others. I suspect that thinking it is okay to
force your will on others can really mess with your ability to work
with the energy required to have experiences. We all have
self-determination, but our worldview determines how well we are
able to express our view of reality. So to sum my answer, what we are learning through EVP does not
contradict religion in most areas. If you are able to stand back and
separate what in a religion is metaphysics and what is social
engineering, we think the metaphysics are usually supported by
evidence. Social engineering is that one sin I was talking about. We do not have information supporting a father God--or disproving
one. We do think we can prove Infinite Intelligence as an
intelligent energy, but there is probably a reason why people
intuitively accept the existence of a Divine "person" who cares
about what is going on here. We also think we can argue that there
is some form of a hierarchy of entities, although we only see the
local tiers. What religions refer to as a father God, is more likely
a local creator entity. We personally think that Jesus was an
important wayshower, but I am not aware of any real information
about his status from EVP. Hell is apparently a local custom that is used these days to scare people, but
probably originated as an attempt to explain an impersonal nature.
There is no evil, only improper understanding. As far as I can tell,
people try to do the very best they are able to do, and evil is in
the eye of those who think people do not live up to their
expectation. As such, the best way to avoid experiencing "evil" is
to not be attached to the outcome of processes in your life. Probably the religion that is most in accord with what we are
learning is Spiritualism. See
http://nsacphenomena.com
Question: Is it possible that these entities are
speaking from a
"heaven" or "hell" type of place?
Answer: As I said above, we tend to carry familiar things with us. We create
our reality here and over there, but imagination is apparently more
quickly realized in the etheric, so if we are fearful, we will tend
to have fearful experiences wherever we are until we learn to
understand the principles involved. We apparently have essentially
forever to do this.
We do have EVP suggesting that people are in distress, but the
evidence argues that their distress is a local, self-imposed
experience that seems like hell.
This takes us back to religious training and the outcome of social
engineering.
Question: Is it logical to say that
people who study
EVP are
generally "agnostic" or do not have a preferred faith?
Answer: EVP is not about religion and we are very careful to keep it that
way. As you can see, I have developed a system of thought, but it is
more a guide for how I live, rather than a religion or article of
faith. We do not ask much about people's religion, but we are also
very careful not to let members bring their religious beliefs into
the mix in anything more than an "I believe" way. This is at least
partially because we are an International organization and many
religious views are represented amongst our members.
I think that, for the most part, our members are more inclined to be
Spiritualist, than any other religion. Of course, many times, they
are something like a Catholic or a Jewish person who is at heart, a
Spiritualist. Part of that is that Spiritualism is more a gathering lf like-minded people
than it is a religion. One of the things that is important to keep in mind when looking to
"experts" to address these questions is that, as I have
previously suggested, some scientists are constrained from believing in
survival by their training. In most cases, a person, holding a doctorate
in a technical discipline, is studying these things from
the perspective of human potential, rather than the possibility that
there may be an etheric Self in a greater reality. It
is for these reasons
that we now think of our field of study as "etheric studies."
Tom Butler
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